Friday, July 6, 2007

Jonathan Edwards - Christian athlete turned athiest.

This article from The Times about Jonathan Edwards' "deconversion" makes interesting reading.

Interesting article, but I can't imagine having faith without doubt.
The two go hand in hand surely?

If I had a free choice I would prefer not to believe in God and sometimes I go through periods of estrangement, but when all is said and done, to say that God did not exist (for me) would be like saying that grass was no green and the sky was not blue.
It would just be wishful thinking.

I considered this recently when I was wondering why two of the three people baptised at the same time as me no longer have faith.

Luke Chapter 8 may have the answer:

Luk 8:13 "And those on the rock are those who, when they hear, receive the Word with joy; and these have no root, who believe for a time, and in time of trial draw back."


  1. Thanks for directing me to the John Edwards article.

    I agree: it is interesting.

    A college classmate of mine once disclosed to the class that he had once been a minister, but had abandoned his calling because he found that he "couldn't love everybody."

    Unfortunately, he hadn't learned to strip the evil from the evildoer--to love the person but not the evil he or she personifies.

    Jonathan Edwards also represents another human in "spiritual crisis."

    It appears he never held his beliefs up to scrutiny during his early years. Or that God was never a living reality in his life.

    There's a quote from the Gospel of Thomas that expresses the nature of this "living reality."

    Jesus is reputed to have said:

    If they ask you, 'What is the evidence of your Father in you?' say to them, 'It is motion and rest.'"

    Without this palpable proof, all is conjecture.

    It is this sure presence of God within us that quiets the doubts, and strengthens our assurance of His existence.

  2. Hi, Gordon

    First of all I want to say sorry if my english is not so good. Im a Filipino and I hope for your patience to understand my english.

    Anyway, I want to say, all of us are not perfect and I dont know what is in your friends' hearts but maybe this time or someday they would realized and they would say sorry to you for what they have done. and I hope you would also forgive them.

    About existing of God, I firmly believe that God is existing..It is not a feeling faith but I proved him many times in my life and it was many to mention it to you.

    For me, the first thing we have to do is to open our heart and mind to God, Ive read many testimonies of atheist people...and many christian have tried their best to explain to them. But thousands of words are worthless if an atheist or whoever will not open their heart and mind. They would still argue, argue and they will not let themselves to be put down.

    Anyway, Ive read a testimony of Paul, he was an athiest and now a believer. God made a situation to him, which is very impossible to be happen yet God made it to show him that he is real.

    then, he started to seek God, and then he prayed...well, I think the first thing he did was he opened his heart and mind to God, maybe he was still confused yet, he still opened it just to satisfy what he wanted to know..and God showed it to him..

    it is written..knock, and seek and it will be given to you

    try to look at this page, it is paul's testimony, if you want..

    I hope you will not include me to those people whom you think who hate you. Sorry if I offend you. let me know. and I want to be your friend because I want to get some idea to you. coz I want to have an atheist friend or acquaitance. because I want to ask questions and I hope it would be ok to you. but If you dont want, it's ok. you can also ask questions to me if you want.